I wish I was kidding, but I am not. I have heard people say "What Christian fundamentalist terrorists"? Well, Here is one...
School board votes to fire teacher over religious teaching
COLUMBUS (AP) -- The Mount
Vernon school board voted 5-0 late Friday to move ahead on firing a
science teacher after an investigation showed he preached his Christian
beliefs in class and used a device to burn the image of a cross on
students' arms.
The board's attorney, David Millstone, said John Freshwater would be entitled to a hearing to challenge the dismissal.
Kelly
Hamilton, who represents Freshwater, told the Mount Vernon News he
would request such a hearing and Freshwater denied any wrongdoing.
School
board members took up the issue one day after consulting firm H.R. On
Call Inc. released its report on the teacher's case.
The
report was released one week after a family filed a lawsuit in U.S.
District Court in Columbus against Freshwater and the school district,
saying Freshwater burned a cross on their child's arm that remained for
three or four weeks.
Freshwater's friend Dave Daubenmire defended him.
"With
the exception of the cross-burning episode. ... I believe John
Freshwater is teaching the values of the parents in the Mount Vernon
school district," he told The Columbus Dispatch for a story published
Friday.
Several
students interviewed by investigators described Freshwater, who has
been employed by the school district for 21 years, as a "great guy" and
their "favorite teacher." But Lynda Weston, the district's director of
teaching and learning, told investigators she has dealt with complaints
about Freshwater for much of her 11 years at the district.
A
former superintendent, Jeff Maley, said he tried to find another
position for Freshwater but couldn't because Freshwater was certified
only in science, the report said.
Freshwater
used a science tool known as a high frequency generator to burn images
of a cross on students' arms in December, the report said. Freshwater
told investigators he simply was trying to demonstrate the device on
three to eight students and described the images an "X" not a cross.
But pictures show the images depict a cross, the report said.
Other
findings show Freshwater taught the unreliability of carbon dating in
support of opposition to evolution. He also told his class
homosexuality is a sin.
Yea, "sin" there is a word in science books everywhere...
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"Terrorists?" While I find the behavior of this "teacher" so far beyond the pale that I'd imprison him for a long, long time, I do like how one incident becomes "terrorists" in the plural sense. Not to mention how you're attempting to link "fundamentalist" with "terrorist."
So, just to level the playing field and to remind people that nasty behavior is on all sides, I introduce you to "lesbian gay-rights terrorists," of which this couple is one:
Torture that Kid, Lesbians
Domestic violence and emotional abuse are behaviors used by one person in a relationship to control the other(s). Partners may be married or not married; heterosexual, gay, or lesbian; living together, separated or dating.Family violence is a broader definition, often used to include child abuse, elder abuse, and other violent acts between family members.
This is not terrorism it is domestic/family violence just as is found in many types of homes across the country.
I the two cannot be compared.
I see eky's aeticle as religious and or fundementalist terroism and I can find you more examples if you wish as well as "lables" given to liberals.
Eric Robert Rudolph
Peter Kevin McGregor Langan
Richard "Wild Bill" Guthrie
Clayton Waagner
Rev. Paul Hill
James Kopp
Buford O. Furrow, Jr.
Michael Philip Plaisted
Jered Michael Ragon
Dayton Lee Calaway
Mark David Uhl
Clifford Peeples
Pat Robertson
Becky Fischer
Groups:
The Covenant
The Sword
the Arm of the Lord
Phineas Priesthood
Oklahoma Constitutional Militia
Universal Church of God
Aryan Republican Army
Patriots Council
Westboro Baptist Church
Army of God
Lambs of Christ
Concerned Christians
The right consistantly labels "fundamentalists" and "terrorists". I am surprised you take offense (pleasently, I might add). And if you wanted to "level the playing field" then whey wouldn't you give an example of "athiestic" teachers gone bad, instead of Lesbians? I can guess why, your own homophobic bigotry. Of course, like the teacher, they too deserve inprisionment. But the teacher terrorized MULTIPLE people, who were not his own children, there is one difference. If you just want to discuss Abuse, then we could go back and forth all day, and I promise I could give more examples of heterosexuals abusing their children than you could of gays doing so, from mothers placing their children in stoves to caging them for weeks.
well said (used not to comment here but this was necessary)
Ha, nice, but once again, your head is so filled with your preconceptions that you get everything wrong. Where to start...?
Ok, first, the "right" doesn't go around labeling people fundamentalists and terrorists. That's a leftist thing. I hear the term "religious fundamentalist" quite often, but hardly, if ever, hear "homosexual terrorist." In fact, I can't think of any label applied to the left with those words in it. (And don't go off on an Iraq rant...people who suicide bomb ARE terrorists, plain and simple.)
Second, you attribute my choice of link to "homophobic bigotry." Of course you do. It's much easier to simply put a label on someone and ignore them than to actually think. There are actually two reasons why I gave you that particular link: 1) because you get riled up by anyone mentioning anything bad about homosexuals and I still recall how you got your panties in a bunch when I had to spank you around showing you about "lesbian child molesters" that you said didn't exist. 2) I already had that article on my blog so it was easy to link to. But hey, it brings you self-righteous comfort to keep using the old bigotry standby, so why deprive you of it based on silly things like facts?
And, hate to break it to you, but the sheer fact that there are more heterosexual cases of abuse means absolutely squat. That's like saying there are more black people with black hair than blonde. Of course there will be more hetero abusers because there are millions more hetero parents. Nature of the beast since homos can't have natural children. Duh. Plus, given your propensity for ignoring the truth when it doesn't suit you, again the "lesbian child molester" fact, I can't just assume you're going to be willing to admit homosexual parents can and do abuse in some cases.
But I am glad to see you admit in your own blog that abuse isn't so bad when only one child is involved. Even given the fact that the abuse on that one child was far more than what those multiple kids suffered. Heck, their abuse disappeared after a couple of weeks. Did you read what those lesbians did to the kid in my article? They didn't just burn something into his arm. They burned him countless times, knocked out his teeth, starved him, hung him up and beat him, burned his hands on a stove, made him sit in his own urine....
But that's not as bad, is it? Because it was just one kid, right? I don't see a difference at all. Even abusing one kid, especially to the degree those two did, is just as bad as abusing many. No kid should be abused.
"Ok, first, the "right" doesn't go around labeling people fundamentalists and terrorists. "------OH YEA thats right! You just assume all muslums are terrorist and should be tortured and killed. Got it...
So you chose the link to elicit an emotional response from me, not to prove your point. Very Right wingish of you, still it doesn't prove any point because in relation to this post it is apples and oranges.
Where did I say abusing one child is not bad? Now you are pulling Shi.t out your ass because you are just a moron. I said...
"Of course, like the teacher, they too deserve inprisionment."
No wonder the right wing has so many problems, none of it's members can hold a coherent thought...
Thanks!
Hm....from what I see, the "Right" only calls those who actually bomb people and kill kids terrorists. Again, I guess you want to ignore the whole "religious fundamentalist" label so popular on the left.
Nice...misinterpret me again. No, it wasn't just to evoke an emotional response, it was for TWO reasons (nice ignoring the other one), and one of them was based on your PAST behavior. In other words, I related a current story not only to your article, but to your previous misconceptions. I can see why you can't handle it.
You said "there's one difference." I, for one, don't see a difference in abusing one kid over multiple kids, as I see all of them as bad. I also see you neglect to discuss the actual torture itself, and how the lesbian "parents" dished out a whole lot more damage than a four week "cross burning," which, while bad and abusive, wasn't the same in actual physical damage.
As for coherent thought, you wouldn't recognize that if it beat you over the head while calling out its name. Your own contradictions prove that. Thanks for playing, though.
The emoticons are because your inability to discuss this situation as it really is bores me. Your attempt to utilize a story about lesbians just to rile me (which didn't work) shows you are not able to interpret or construct a true analogy or have any grasp on this situation. We are talking about teachers and other people's children and pushing religious beliefs on others who are what 10, 11, 12 years old and burning crap on their arms. Again, Apples and oranges.
I don't need conspiracy theories, not with a right wing and republican party as corrupt as this one. I like to discuss facts (try to use RELAVENT ones next time). Something the Right is usually incapable of comprehending..
LOL, you are fun, almost remind me of Joe, only you can actually write. Still I was discussing teachers forcing religious beliefs on children and sadistically branding them. HOW DOES THAT RELATE TO LESBIANS WHO ABUSE THEIR KIDS? This was not the teachers child, that situation, bad as it was, did not have anything to do with forcing in sadistic ways religious beliefs on other peoples children. As I said, apples and oranges.
I am not ignoring the fact that religious fundamentalism exists. Pat robinson, Hagee, Parsley (All McCain arse lickers), this teacher, that heavens gate cult, focus on the family, christian coalition, all nutball religious fundamentalists.
So because the lesbians did more damage to their child, it excuses the teacher? Are you really that dense????
You know, I notice that the more your argument falters, the more you rely on emoticons. Amusing. Seriously, I wonder just how many times you're going to misinterpret me (on purpose?) in order to attack a point I don't even make. I guess that's easier than dealing with what I have said, so I shouldn't be surprised. I already explained to you why I chose that lesbian abuse link, so you can assign as many misguided and erroneous motives that you want to. Pretty soon I'm sure you'll get into something involving right-wing conspiracy theories, aliens, and the Bermuda Triangle, but I'll have lost interest way before then.
And I really don't get where you think that I said you were ignoring religious fundamentalism. I stated that the left is the one who keeps assigning all these negative labels while I don't see the right doing the same, and you turn it completely around to mean something else. Fine...have fun with your aliens and conspiracies. Just make sure you don't put the "brainwave protecting" hat on too tight.
As for your last sentence, I don't even know where you came up with that. Perhaps you're reading someone else's post, or too busy trying to pick out emoticons to actually read what I said. If anyone here is trivialzing child abuse based on some factor, it's you, as I've already shown.
I grow tired of dealing with your strawmen attacks, though, so I'll leave you to have the last word. I should have known that discussing anything with you is still like talking to a wall, except for the fact that the wall isn't expected to be able to reason coherently.
There are some "terrorists for you eky :
People:
Eric Robert Rudolph
Peter Kevin McGregor Langan
Richard "Wild Bill" Guthrie
Clayton Waagner
Rev. Paul Hill
James Kopp
Buford O. Furrow, Jr.
Michael Philip Plaisted
Jered Michael Ragon
Dayton Lee Calaway
Mark David Uhl
Clifford Peeples
Pat Robertson
Becky Fischer
The Covenant
The Sword
the Arm of the Lord
Phineas Priesthood
Oklahoma Constitutional Militia
Universal Church of God
Aryan Republican Army
Patriots Council
Westboro Baptist Church
Army of God
Lambs of Christ
Concerned Christians
I have only heard of a handful of these groups and people...
I too have only heard of a handful of these groups and people. Although, Pat Robertson is out there I don't think he is a terrorist.
I had forgotten about that. Thanks for the reminder Holly. He has said so many things off the wall. He was saying the world was going to end with Y2k. The man is off his rocker.
about pat Robertson:
In August 2005, U.S. television evangelist Pat Robertson was branded a terrorist by Venezuelan officials after calling for the assassination of President Hugo Chávez.[139] In response to Robertson's statements, Chávez said, "To call for the assassination of a head of state is an act of terrorism," and suggested that Venezuela would request the extradition of Robertson from the United States.[140] Vice President José Vicente Rangel said, "This is a huge hypocrisy to maintain an antiterrorist line and at the same time have such terrorist statements as these made by Christian preacher Pat Robertson coming from the same country."[141] The Bush administration distanced itself from Robertson's remarks, Rev. Jesse Jackson said that the remarks were illegal and urged U.S. authorities to take action, Rev. Rob Schenck said Robertson should "immediately apologize, retract his statement and clarify what the Bible and Christianity teaches about the permissibility of taking human life outside of law," and Rev. Richard Cizik said, "most evangelical leaders" would disassociate themselves from such "unfortunate and particularly irresponsible" comments.[142][141] Robertson issued an apology,[142] but in January 2006 again called for Chávez's assassination, "Not now, but one day."[143]